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Posted 30 July 2006 - 12:37 PM

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND HOMOSEXUALITY

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (WTS) is a conservative Christian denomination whose theology differs greatly from that of Fundamentalist and other Evangelical denominations. Their attitude towards homosexuality goes beyond what most other conservative religious groups require. The WTS requires that both homosexual behavior and feelings be suppressed. That is:

They must remain celibate.

Jesus' stated that to lust after another person is to commit adultery with them in your heart. Thus a gay or lesbian must attempt to suppress their desire, longing, feelings of attractiveness, love, sexual fantasies etc towards others of the same sex.
Homosexual Witnesses are expected to refrain from both sexual activity and sexual thoughts involving other persons of the same-sex. Although individual with a homosexual orientation can choose celibacy, it is quite impossible for any person to totally control and eliminate their sexual feelings. The Witness' policy places an immense emotional load on its gay and lesbian membership who try to live up to the group's expectations. Failure is almost inevitable.
Jim Moon is webmaster of A Common Bond, an international support group for ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered. 1 Their web site states that: "The Jehovah's Witness religion teaches its membership to believe that homosexuality is 'detestable', 'an abomination', 'abhorrent', and is caused by demon possession. Because of this, thousands of gay Witnesses are living lives of deeply closeted guilt, and fear of destruction by God. Those who choose to leave, or are expelled from the Witnesses face immediate isolation and shunning from family and friends. It is for this reason that A Common Bond was created - to offer support and comfort to those who once thought they were alone and condemned." Moon commented: "Gays and lesbians who have been kicked out of the JWs are in a special need for all the emotional and spiritual support they can get. If JWs don't conform completely to the sect's doctrines and practices, including a strict prohibition against merely being gay, they are disfellowshipped,' which is a severe punishment. It amounts to total ostracism."
If detected, gays and lesbians who refuse to remain celibate are disfellowshipped. Under those conditions, fellow members are required to shun him/her completely, avoiding all contact. If the disfellowshiped person is a family member, then they are treated normally within the family, except that they are made to understand that their actions are disapproved of. There is no discussion about church matters in their presence. This can have a devastating effect on a person whose entire religious, family and social life were grounded in the Society.
As in all large organizations, official policies must be administered by junior officials. Some consider even celibate gays and lesbians as unsuitable for membership.

Confidential Textbook

The Society publishes a confidential Kingdom Ministry School Textbook which is titled "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to all the flock." The name comes from Acts 20:28. It is used by congregation elders and traveling overseers.
Pages 92 to 94 deal with "wrongdoing", which they regard as increasing "in frequency and depravity..." in society. In the area of sexual misconduct, they differentiate among three escalating levels of seriousness

uncleanness (e.g. momentary touching of another person's sexual parts outside of marriage). This does not require a judicial hearing.

loose conduct (e.g. heavy petting outside of marriage). This requires judicial action

"por.nei'a" which "involves immoral use of the genitals of at least one human (whether in a natural or a perverted way), and there must have been another party to the immorality: a human of either sex or a beast...It includes oral and anal sex or mutual masturbation between persons not married to each other, homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, incest, and bestiality." Any person who engages in such activity must be handled through judicial action. Neither actual penetration or orgasm need be involved.
In Page 111, the handbook covers the evidence required to convict an accused person. Either two eyewitnesses or a confession of wrongdoing are required. However, evidence that "the accused stayed all night...with a known homosexual...under improper circumstances, is acceptable proof."

Article in Awake! Magazine

"Awake" is one of two mass-circulation magazine published by The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York. Their issue for 1995-FEB-8 commented on homosexuality"
"Scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction. But one thing is clear: All humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations. --Romans 3:23. A youth who desires to please God must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult. True, some individuals may very well be prone to homosexuality...
Similarly, a Christian cannot excuse immoral behavior by saying he was 'born that way.' Child molesters invoke the same pathetic excuse when they say their craving for children is "innate." But can anyone deny that their sexual appetite is perverted? So is the desire for someone of the same sex."

Reference:

1. A Common Bond is an international "support network for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered former and current Jehovah's Witnesses." The California chapters have a web site at: http://www.gayxjw.org/ They have a list of web sites maintained by other "A Common Bond" chapters at: http://www.gayxjw.org/links.html
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 02:46 PM

Thank you Judge, very informative. I do think though that trying to suppress behavior might cause mental, psychological and emotional strain in those individuals. Is not it easier to let things flow naturally. After all, everyone decides what their own life is going to be. I know you agree with this, just a comment on the article.

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 03:26 PM

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 03:29 PM

The basic idea here is what most christian religions demand. They have their catch phrase... love the sinner hate the sin. They require that gays and lesbians must not be practicing (most already have it perfected so no practice necessary hehheh) and must eliminate the thoughts from their minds. A bit silly if you ask me...but then again... some of these same denominations require that of their priests as well
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 04:03 PM

I don't understand the big deal. Some sects of Christianity recommend total celibacy unless you're actively attempting to procreate, and then you must be married. In the context of your posting this article, are you suggesting they are somehow backward-thinking and not entitled to their religious beliefs because they seem ignorant? I'm not attacking, but I am asking.

People are going to have differing views, some diametrically opposed to our own, on every issue. There never has been uniformity of opinion, not ever. Not everything is "fair". I fail completely to see what it wrong with the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs and recommended practices for homosexuals. If some homosexuals choose to be Jehovah's Witnesses, then I guess they know what they're getting into. If not, then I don't believe at all it is incumbent upon them to change the church, its doctrines, or its traditions. I have no idea as to the statistics on the number of homsexuals in that particular group, but my money says it might not be that high -- because of that church's way of dealing with the issue. I could be wrong, but that's my guess.

Homosexuality is a reality. So is promiscuity. So is lusting in the heart. So are a lot of things. Do we have to tear down everything that doesn't seem to jibe with "reality" so that it does, including worldviews and religions?
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 04:52 PM

No not in the least Traveler. I just have a lot of people I have that I work with that are gay and JW. It is a really hard thing for them. Some choose to stay JW and follow the strict guidelines. Some dont' and I never encourage them one way or the other. I have been working with the Religious Tolerance group for some time and they have great articles on all kinds of topics. Being that ULC church is inter denominational I think their site is one to be looked at for reference to help certain people of diffferent beliefs is all and I thought it would be help to those here online that would be able to use it if they knew anyone that might have a problem along that line. In no way do I feel the JW's don't have a right to their beliefs. I am a supporter of the site www.religioustolerance.org and I always give credit and reference to them when I use their information, because it is advertising for them. But Josh had made it clear that this is not acceptable so I will not post this things anymore. I will make reference to the links though as this is ok according to the post that Josh left.? Glad you all find it of value and interest that read it and enjoy the information. Enjoy your day all.

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I don't understand the big deal. Some sects of Christianity recommend total celibacy unless you're actively attempting to procreate, and then you must be married. In the context of your posting this article, are you suggesting they are somehow backward-thinking and not entitled to their religious beliefs because they seem ignorant? I'm not attacking, but I am asking.

People are going to have differing views, some diametrically opposed to our own, on every issue. There never has been uniformity of opinion, not ever. Not everything is "fair". I fail completely to see what it wrong with the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs and recommended practices for homosexuals. If some homosexuals choose to be Jehovah's Witnesses, then I guess they know what they're getting into. If not, then I don't believe at all it is incumbent upon them to change the church, its doctrines, or its traditions. I have no idea as to the statistics on the number of homsexuals in that particular group, but my money says it might not be that high -- because of that church's way of dealing with the issue. I could be wrong, but that's my guess.

Homosexuality is a reality. So is promiscuity. So is lusting in the heart. So are a lot of things. Do we have to tear down everything that doesn't seem to jibe with "reality" so that it does, including worldviews and religions?

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 05:59 AM

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (WTS) is a conservative Christian denomination whose theology differs greatly from that of Fundamentalist and other Evangelical denominations. Their attitude towards homosexuality goes beyond what most other conservative religious groups require. The WTS requires that both homosexual behavior and feelings be suppressed. That is:
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:07 PM

All sentient beings regardless of religious tradition, sexual orientation or ethnicity have a right to happiness and freedom from suffering. From the moment of birth every human being wants happiness and does not want suffering. That is the purpose of life. To be happy. I don't know whether the universe has a deeper meaning or not but at the very least it is clear that we humans who live on this earth face the task of making a happy life for ourselves. Therefore, it is important to discover what will bring about the greatest degree of happiness whether it is mental or physical.

As long as we live in this world we are bound to encounter problems and life situations such as judgment. Being judged by religious dogma or collective ego creates suffering for humans and people may loose hope and become discouraged and it diminishes the ability to face difficulties. On the other hand we need to be mindful that it is not just ourselves alone but everyone has undergone suffering at one level or another. By nature, sexual preference as in homosexuality is still a debatable subject at best as to whether it is by choice or inherent predisposition. Certainly the argument can be made for either side. However what cannot be debated is the fact that judgement and accusation made by collective ego causes suffering and should be avoided and that love lies at the very foundation of human existence. It results from the profound interdependence we all share with one another regardless of sexual orientation.

The point is that we as a human race need to cultivate and strive to become more compassionate toward others suffering not matter what the cause and to help remove the pain. As a result, our own serenity and inner strength will increase.

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