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Posted 30 August 2011 - 11:37 AM

1.Imagine a Christianity without the influence of original sin and the fall. If we remove “fall/redemption theology” from Christianity, what is left and what can be put in its place?

Original Christian philosophy, which doesn’t really concern itself with either original sin (which was invented by the early Church of Rome, taking advantage of a couple of misunderstood scriptural passages) or the fall. Get a version of the Bible with the words of Christ in red and read just those words- that philosophy is what you’d have.

2. Explain the connection between the traditional understanding of the Genesis narratives and our ecological concerns for Mother Earth. Why are the two connected?

They aren’t, although it’s popular in “New Age” thought to associate the two. The connection follows somewhere along the hazy lines that since the Genesis creation myth is supposedly “anti- woman” (it isn’t), then it naturally follows that we are anti- Earth, since the Earth is usually characterized (and not unreasonably so) as a female or as a mother. The latter is a reasonable analogy, the former is flawed, and the connection between the two is absolute codswallop.

3. How do you react to the possibility, as theorized by Gregg Braden, that you carry the message “God Eternal within the body” in your genetic code?

Congratulatory? I don’t react to it at all- that is also my belief.

4. If this “God Code” is common to all humanity, how does it affect your understanding of current issues of world peace and justice?

It really doesn’t. The common “G-d Code” idea enforces the two great Christian commandments. Having said that, however, “world peace,” though an admirable theoretical goal, is most probably unobtainable, completely. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive and hope for it.

5. Become the storyteller of your life and create your own creation mythology. What would your creation story feel, look and sound like?

Genesis 1 and 2 work for me, as long as it’s made clear what it means and that it’s mythology.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:16 AM

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1. Imagine a Christianity without the influence of original sin and the fall. If we remove “fall/redemption theology” from Christianity, what is left and what can be put in its place?
Something where we see the world as the true 'Garden" and place kindness on the planet we live on, not tear it apart. When man and woman work together as equals, and not feel that because of the 'fall' wowmen have to be subject to the wiles of a man, but rather seen as equal, will we begin to see the garden once again. We can then strive to see God in us, and work together with our creator...rather than see we are "poor and miserable" and that women are responsible for this.

2. Explain the connection between the traditional understanding of the Genesis narratives and our ecological concerns for Mother Earth. Why are the two connected?
Genesis, and the human expulsion of the garden of Eden, show our uncaringness of the planet. We strive to return to the garden, yet we are living on it, just not in unity and certainly not harmony. If men and women could find unity, perhaps we could learn to live on our planet better, find God in ourselves, and enjoy some peace. Mother Earth is waiting, and dying in our denial.

3. How do you react to the possibility, as theorized by Gregg Braden, that you carry the message “God Eternal within the body” in your genetic code?
It is not a new theory. Gnostics and Santeria religions feel the ideals of this. Perhaps Hare Krishnas, Buddhists too. The Chakras in the body, similar in energy and power to the seven Orishas of Santeria. Meditating is in a way, seeking your inner self. So if we all are related to Gods energy, why wouldnt some be inside us? Eric's ideas are very comforting.


4. If this “God Code” is common to all humanity, how does it affect your understanding of current issues of world peace and justice?
As Patriarcal nations, we are like children saying what is mine is mine and yours is yours...or sometimes yours is mine! Money is the material God.. If we all could see we are here under the eyes of the all..God and Goddess..our creators, we could find unity somehow. It is our nature as nations to not. adding religion and having different ideals only separates us more.


5. Become the storyteller of your life and create your own creation mythology. What would your creation story feel, look and sound like?

The Divine Masculine and Feminine created the Earth, and all of the Galaxy, creating male and female, they made them in their likeness. the union of both can lead to creation, giving the humans a power similar to their makers. a plentiful earth was made, and humans have the ability to make things grow and prosper...plenty for everyone. We learn to share, appreciate and love everyone under our creator's sun and Moon, and learn to appreciate differences as well as similarities.
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 02:52 PM

1. Imagine a Christianity without the influence of original sin and the fall. If we remove “fall/redemption theology” from Christianity, what is left and what can be put in its place?

In Hungary, churches were “banned” for decades during the last years of socialism. Not banned really, but they had zero influence, most of their properties were taken away, and the entire political environment was so that church would play no part in people’s everyday life. The big churches are just awakening after this period. Maybe this is the reason for it, but what I noticed in Hungary, is that they do not emphasise the fall, and do not discriminate women in any way.


2. Explain the connection between the traditional understanding of the Genesis narratives and our ecological concerns for Mother Earth. Why are the two connected?

I would go against traditional views here. If Mother Earth wanted to clean up all this mess, She could do it in a heartbeat. We, humans, want to “save” the Earth. It sounds so selfless. But let’s ask the question: why? Why do we want to save the Earth so badly? Because we want it to be a comfortable place FOR OURSELVES, and we hate change, so we shouldn’t let any change happen. This is all ego. We don’t care about the environment, all we want is for things to remain the same.


3. How do you react to the possibility, as theorized by Gregg Braden, that you carry the message “God Eternal within the body” in your genetic code?

Hasn’t this always been the case? Even the church teaches that God is everywhere and in all of us. I don’t see this as a huge sensation.


4. If this “God Code” is common to all humanity, how does it affect your understanding of current issues of world peace and justice?

It doesn’t change anything. This has always been the case.
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