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#1 User is offline   Rev. Dr. Gary 

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 08:45 AM

This is for questions pertaining to Lesson 9.

1. Who were apologists and polemicists and how did they respectively approach their task of defending the Christian faith through writing? What was the difference in approach between the Eastern and Western apologists?

2. Who was the greatest apologist? Who was the greatest polemicist?

3. What were the two polemical schools of Christian thought and what were their respective approaches to formulating Christian theology?

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 09:25 AM

[quote name='Rev. Dr. Gary' post='51272' date='Jul 29 2008, 04:45 PM']This is for questions pertaining to Lesson 9.

1. Who were apologists and polemicists and how did they respectively approach their task of defending the Christian faith through writing? What was the difference in approach between the Eastern and Western apologists?

The apologists were writing more as philosophers than theologians. They emphasized that Christianity was the oldest religion and philosophy because the Pentateuch dated way before the Trojan Wars, and that truths in Greek philosophy were borrowed from Christianity or Judaism. The apologists made much of the pure life, death, and resurrection of Christ, Christ
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Posted 04 February 2009 - 02:23 PM

1. Who were apologists and polemicists and how did they respectively approach their task of defending the Christian faith through writing? What was the difference in approach between the eastern and Western apologists?

The work of the apologists and polemicists represents a more concerted campaign to defend the Christian faith and negate false notions and accusations disseminated by its enemies. The apologists attempted to convince the authorities that Christianity was worthy of acceptance and did not deserve the sporadic persecutions that occurred. They also argued that Christianity was superior to other forms of worship, using logic and recourse to Greek philosophy as well as frequent reference to the Pentateuch and to the New Testament to reinforce their case that Christianity was the oldest and most elevated belief system. The eastern Apologists, especially Justin Martyr, discussed the origins, morality and theology of Christianity and explained the nature and intent of Christian worship. Justin also endeavoured to convince Jews that Christ was the Messiah and the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies. Western apologists such as Tertullian were more concerned with the practical and legal objections to persecution, citing legal precedents and lauding the moral and doctrinal superiority of the Christians over their non-Christian neighbours. It should be noted that the distinction between apologists and polemicists becomes more clearcut at a later date and that, at this stage, there was much overlap between the different approaches as the career of Tertullian indicates.

2. Who was the greatest apologist? Who was the greatest polemicist?

The greatest apologist is generally considered to be Justin martyr (AD 100-165) whose First and Second Apologies and Dialogue with Trypho provide a valuable summation of Christian belief and practice and the mindset of the time. The greatest polemicist is deemed to be Irenaeus, a missionary bishop, who wrote Adversus Haereses to combat Gnostic doctrines developing the idea of the unity of God and that of the Resurrection in opposition to Gnostic beliefs. In Book III he also stresses the value of a united church structure and body of doctrine as a bulwark against heresy.

3. What were the two polemical schools of Christian thought and what were their respective approaches to formulating Christian theology?

The Alexandrian school, founded around AD 185, was led by Pantaenus with the aim of enlisting philosophy as a means to create a definitive Christian theology. This incorporated the notion that Scripture was capable of varying interpretations on different levels. Greek knowledge and philosophical techniques might, however, be overused in this context to the detriment of the essential truths that reside within Christianity and emanate from God alone rather than through the medium of the Greek intellectual mindset. The Carthaginian school embraced a more practical approach which dealt with recommended behaviour, dress and personal deportment as well as weighty theological commentary such as that penned by Tertullian in Against Praxeas (first using the term Trinity), De Anima (aeteology of the soul) and Of Baptism (stressing its sacramental nature). Cyprian (AD 200-258) carried on the work of Tertullian and wrote De Unitate Catholicae Ecclesiae which clearly underscored the significance of episcopal power and stressed the preeminence of Peter amongst the Apostles, thus identifying the process which ultimately leads to the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome within the church.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:02 PM

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 07:43 AM

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 10:23 PM

1. apologists and Polemicists used there writings to defend the church through written arguments to subordinate faith and the teachings of the church. They also wrote for the heretics hoping to show them the truth threw scripture. The difference between eastern and western Apologists was the way they went about defending the church using philosophy that for the east was mainly Greek and the west was more courned with Pagan practices.


2. Clement of Alexandria and Tertallian


3. The Alexandrian school and the Carthaginian school
the Alexandrian school was th convert pagan to Christianity using theology and philosophy.
The Carthaginian school taught through practicality and scripture which later led to the Roman Catholic Doctrine of transubstantiation and it is still practiced today.
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 01:47 PM

1. Apologists were fighting the outside threats to Christianity like the Roman Government. They tried to win the Roman government over with arguments and philosophy about Christians. To prove them to be good and not bad. Polemicists were fighting the internal threats to the religion. They tried to secure the doctrine and fight off heresy . Eastern were concerned with the relationship of Christianity and Pagan religions and making sure that they were distinct. Western were concerned on just getting the religion of Christianity finalized and getting the religion known as Christianity organized and set beliefs in place.

2. Justin Martyr was the greatest Apologists, Irenaeus was the greatest Polemicist.

3. The Alexandrian School and The Carthaginian School. The Alexandrina's tried to use Theology as sound Christian truth. While the other school was more practical and went by the scripture as truth .


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 01:56 PM

(Master of Christian History)-Lesson #9 'Written Scrolls'
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Bro. Jim DeManche

Question #1:
Who were apologists and polemicists and how did they respectively approach their task of defending the Christian faith through writing? What was the difference in approach between the Eastern and Western apologists?

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Apologists had a positive and negative side to their writing. The negative part was to condemn the false charges of atheism, cannibalism, incest, and antisocial behavior that were made by their pagan neighbors and writers such as Celsus. The positive part was the elevating of Christianity as superior to Judaism, pagan religion, and state worship.

The apologists were writing as philosophers, not theologians. They emphasized that Christianity was the oldest religion and philosophy because the Pentateuch dated way before the Trojan Wars, and what truths that were in Greek philosophy were in fact borrowed from Christianity or Judaism. The apologists made much of the pure life, death, and resurrection of Christ, Christís miracles, and the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies concerning Christ which proved Christianity is the highest philosophy. These writers were already learned in Greek philosophy before accepting Christianity.

Unlike the apologists (as converts from paganism) who addressed the external threats of persecution from the Roman state, the polemicists (as ones with a Christian cultural background) addressed internal heresies that were threatening the internal peace, purity, and unity of the Christian church. Unlike the apologists who heavily emphasized the Old Testament, the polemicists heavily emphasized the New Testament as source for Christian doctrine. The polemicists condemned through argument false doctrines. This was different from the apologists who explained Christianity to pagan culture and rulers.

Tatian (c. A.D. 110-c. A.D. 180), the well traveled Eastern scholar who was a student of Justin Martyr in Rome, wrote Address to the Greeks after the mid 2nd century A.D. It condemned Greek pretensions to cultural superiority in the form of an apology. This was addressed to a whole people, the Greeks. Christianity was superior to Greek religion and philosophy, and it should be given a fair shake. The second part (chapters 5-30) deals with comparing Christian teaching with Greek mythology and philosophy. In the next part (chapters 31-41) Christianity was shown to be older than Greek thought and religion because Moses predated the Trojan Wars. He also gave a unique explanation of the Greek statuary that he had seen in Rome (chapters 33-34). Tatian also compiled the Diatessaron which was the earliest harmony of the Gospels.

The Western apologists were concerned more about the distinctions and finality of Christianity than the similarities with pagan religions and philosophies. Tertullian (c. A.D. 160-A.D. 225) was the greatest apologist of the Western Church. Born into the family of a Roman centurion posted in Carthage, he was learned in Greek and Latin. He knew well the classics. He became a proficient lawyer and taught oratory and practiced law in Rome where he became a Christian.


Question #2:
Who was the greatest apologist? Who was the greatest polemicist?

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Justin Martyr (c. A.D. 100-A.D. 165) was the greatest apologist of the 2nd century A.D. Born in a pagan family near the Biblical town of Shechem, he early on became a wandering philosopher on a quest for truth.

Born in Smyrna, Irenaeus would be considered the greatest polemicist. He was predisposed to Polycarpís preaching while the latter was bishop of Smyrna. Irenaeus later went to Gaul [modern-day France] where he became bishop before A.D. 180. He was a well-accomplished missionary bishop. However his greatest effort was his polemical writings condemning Gnosticism.


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3. What were the two polemical schools of Christian thought and what were their respective approaches to formulating Christian theology?

The Alexandrian School around A.D. 185, was founded in Alexandria a school of catechism to teach new pagan converts the doctrines of Christianity. The first leader of this school was Pantaenus who was a convert from probably Stoicism.

The Carthaginian School, the Western/Latin mentality was more concerned with practical involving church polity and doctrines relating to the church rather than speculative theology. This difference can be seen in contrasting the writings of Origen with the writings of Tertullian and Cyprian of North Africa.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:37 AM

This is for questions pertaining to Lesson 9.

1. Who were apologists and polemicists and how did they respectively approach their task of defending the Christian faith through writing? What was the difference in approach between the Eastern and Western apologists?

The apologists wrote to the peopel outside the church who were persecuting the Chrrstians and those who spoke out against the Christian religion. The polemicists directed their writings towards people inside the church and address heresies and false teachings. The Western apologist focused more of what made Christianity different from all other religions instead of anything it had in common with other belief systems.



2. Who was the greatest apologist? Who was the greatest polemicist?


Tertullian and Justin Martyr were the greatest of the apologist, western and eastern respectively. The two polemicists that seemed to have a lasting impact on how things are not viewed were Cyprian and Tertullian whose writings included the first justifications and explanations of the Trinity and Apostolic Succession.




3. What were the two polemical schools of Christian thought and what were their respective approaches to formulating Christian theology?

The Alexandrian School taught a theology based on philosophy which wound up havign hardful effects for a long time on how people understood the scriptures. The Carthaginian School was a more realistic and less speculative, in its views which mainly dealt with the doctrine of the Church.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:25 AM

1. Apologists were individuals that would address the heresy from Roman Rule through writing apologies which were based out of the Old Testament. These Christian leaders wanted to stop the persecution of christians for persuing their faith. Polemicists, were leaders that would write to address herectical teachings within the church. They were concerned with the New Testament,i.e. the "Father, Son, and holy spirit philospophies.

2. The greatest apologist was Jusin Martyr.c. A.D. 100-A.D. He wrote his first apology to Emperor Antionius Pius. The greatest Polemicist was Tertullian A.D. 160-225. He was the first to state the theology of the Trinity.

3. One school of thought was that of Alexandrian. It stressed a historical grammatical biblical hermineutic it stated christianity had more than one meaning. It harmed Christianity for many years. Irenaeus, was the school to






designed to defeat Gnosticism. It developed a body of tradition through a series of books. The first two books were negative and the last three books were a positive discoures on Christian teachings.
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