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Points To Ponder Lesson 12

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 10:42 AM

Please enter your answers to the questions given in this lesson here.
Instructor: Master of the Historical Jesus
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:22 PM

1. The concept of quantative time involves a chronological approach to events expressed as a linear continuum whereas qualitative time relates to the idea of events as experiences which are recollected in terms of their importance in the cultural, religious or social practices of a people. Qualitative time will not necessarily conform to the rigid structures that are the norm in society but will rather be a sensory experience that draws on the quality and intensity of the event of person recollected.

2. The western concept of time as officially measured does not exclude the parallel use of qualitative time when people recollect events from an experiential viewpoint rather than to draw deductions from history. Older people may remember the atmosphere that prevailed during World War II, 'as if it were yesterday', or relive a memorable holiday vividly. Such memories of happy or sad times are not related to a timeline but are more akin to snapshots suddenly rediscovered that trigger a tide of recollection that defies time.

3. 'Contemporaneous' means 'living, happening or being at the same time'. (Chambers Dictionary)

4. The messages enunciated by the Old Testament prophets were directed at the people amongst whom they dwelt and were intended to point out what God had in store for them at a future juncture. A sub-text was that too much study of the past would be no help to them as it would only cause them to repeat the same futile actions that had led to their current predicament. The prophet would also instruct them how to prepare themselves to carry out God's wishes and to accept the need for change.

5. The 'signs of the times' which were used by the prophets to identify the changes that were needed and that God would enjoin, derived from a close study of the prevailing situation as well as their mandate from God.

6. The story of Jonah is one that sits rather uncomfortably with the stories of other prophets as there seems to be little, if any, prophecy in the book and Jonah himself is a very reluctant emissary for God. It might better be termed a 'cautionary tale' than a fully-fledged work of prophecy. Jonah is instructed by God to journey to the cosmopolitan city of Nineveh, capital of Assyria, a state to which Israel paid a much-resented tribute, and to warn them that their immorality and debauchery threatened to bring down dire punishments upon them. Initially, Jonah refuses to undertake this commission (for reasons that are not disclosed) and flees, taking ship for Tarshish. It is during this stormy voyage that he is swallowed by a great fish and makes his peace with God. Again, he receives his orders from God and this time , he obeys. Nineveh hears Jonah's warnings and quickly mends its ways (possibly because they had recently suffered a solar eclipse, flood and famine in quick succession and were open to apocalyptic prediction) which leads God to treat them with compassion. Curiously, Jonah now sulks unconscionably and appears to resent the compassionate treatment meted out to the inhabitants of Nineveh. It is hard to resist the thought that God might have made a rather rash choice when he selected Jonah for this important task but the lesson to be drawn from this episode perhaps is that one cannot run from God. Jonah tries but finds it impossible and he realises that those whom God chooses must carry out the tasks assigned to them. His subsequent resentful attitude, which seems in some ways an unnecessary addendum to the story, perhaps underlines the fact that some who are called to do God's work may not appear to be the ideal candidates but that God's purpose should not be doubted or resisted.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:52 PM

Qualitative time deals with descriptions and quantitative time deals with numbers.

We still celebrated Passover, we just call it Easter. After all of these generations and thousands of years we still put ourselves back in the time of the ancients.

Existing in the same period of time.

The Prophets message was a sign of the times and not for future generations.

I believe they figured out that "History repeats itself:. Comparing what happened in the past with the current situations. (Students of history you might say)!!!

They were defeated , raped and murdered, and God asked them to forgive. :unsure:

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 07:16 PM

Historical Jesus Lesson 12 Points to Ponder
Dr. Lisa Morris

1. Explain the difference between quantitative and qualitative time.
Quantitative means that it could be measured, has a numerical value, there is a continuum. Qualitative is beyond measure, not based on our present linear conception of time.

2. Explain how our Western concept of time is similar to the ancient Hebrew concept of time.

The qualitative concept of time in our time is similar to the old times as when we refer to a woman’s age or time to have children, or a woman’s time to get married. Or when we may say it is time to rethink our beliefs or way of thinking. The quantitative time was the same as ours now except that they did not keep time as accurate as we do in our time.

3. Define the word, contemporaneous.
It means of the same era or time.

4. For whom was a prophet’s message for and was it timeless?
The message was for the people of his time, for their era. It was not to be taken in a measureable or chronological way. It was not timeless. It could have been taken as to be in their immediate future.

5. How did a prophet determine the “signs of the times?”
It was determined by the social circumstances and needs of their time. Also by the expectations of a future act of God.

6. What was the present condition of the Hebrews in the time of the prophet Jonah and what did he ask the people to do about it?
The people were always looking at past events and the probability of them being repeated. Looking at the past would not change their times and Jonah asked them to focus on the future, in a saving act of God. It was a time of harsh living. The people were confused and did not understand their present time. Jonah asked them to focus on the future to come and be prepared for a life changing event that God would bring.

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